Flow 8 for live work

The new Flow8 digital console
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paulfostershow
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Flow 8 for live work

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I'm looking at changing my Soundcraft Signature 10 for a Flow 8. I like the look of the Flow 8 as it's smaller, digital and has bluetooth to stream music.

I use backing tracks in a solo show so I control everything on stage, I don't really have time to mess around with complicated menus etc., which is why I have never gone digital before.

I have read nearly every write up and watched nearly every you tube video (speaking English) but most only discuss pod casts/recording and not much reference is made regarding live work.

has anyone here used this in a live application, how easy is to control while you are on stage, whilst trying to play, sing, entertain, all at the same time?
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pvannatto
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Re: Flow 8 for live work

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Hi Paul,

Welcome to the forum. I don't have a Flow8 or have any experience with it. But I have asked Robert Lofgren (the other moderator) to comment on his live experience with that digital console. He said he will respond when he gets home.
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Roblof
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Re: Flow 8 for live work

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A good thing about this mixer is that you can store full mixer presets for different situations that you can recall without the need for an external app.

Setting up things like the eq, compressor, etc requires the app but when that is setup you control your levels using the onboard faders. Once those things are setup you rarely need to tweak them during the performance and the tactile faders are readily available for quick level/gain adjustments.

You also have access to a builtin reverb and delay (with tap delay) so there is no need for external fx. The fx can be turned on/off with a single button press or foot control between songs.

The flow is core audio compliant (usb) so you can use e.g. an iphone/ipad to stream your audio should you not want to use a bulky laptop. Bluetooth is possible in parallel with usb.

If you connect a computer you can record a full multitrack of your show for mixing in a daw later on.

Monitoring is possible using either the headphone output or the dedicated monitor outputs.

I hope this helps. Please feel free to ask any additional questions if you need some in-depth information.
paulfostershow
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Re: Flow 8 for live work

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Thank you you your help guys, I think I'll give it a go. I can see many benefits for my application, I was just a little worried about the level of attention I would need on stage.

I will update my experiences here in a few weeks time, which will hopefully be of benefit to other potential users.
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Re: Flow 8 for live work

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paulfostershow wrote: Mon Jul 05, 2021 8:24 am Thank you you your help guys, I think I'll give it a go. I can see many benefits for my application, I was just a little worried about the level of attention I would need on stage.
The Flow 8 surface is easy to use for simple channel and/or main level changes during live performance. If you need to make changes to EQ, FX or Dynamics for some songs, I recommend using snapshots rather then using the app on a phone or tablet in a live performance.

You can use up to 15 mixer snapshots to save settings at rehearsal or soundcheck. These can be recalled on the mixer with a few clicks and turns. An easier way is to configure the footswitch for snapshot loading and use a two-button pedal for snapshot-up and snapshot-down. If you can avoid changes to channel faders between snapshots, you could block them from snapshot loading (turn Main off) so that any manual fader changes during performance are not lost when switching snapshots.

If you use the footswitch for snapshot control, you lose pedal control of FX muting and Tap-tempo. These are quite easy to do on the console, though.

If you use a PC/Mac/iPad connected via USB with DAW or set-list software for backing tracks, you could load required snapshots through Midi. You could also use Midi control of individual mixer controls to supplement or replace snapshots.
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Re: Flow 8 for live work

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Greetings People. This is my first post.
If I can add to the Flow for live work:
I have switched from an Allen Heath Zed 10FXi to the Flow 8 and used it once without too much thought live!
Although I have used digital mixers extensively, it was an easy switch over
One of the reasons I switched and I did buy 3 of them for use with multiple different computers around the house and this one is in my pedal board.
Is that the form factor size is perfect!
I have another couple of gigs early next month and so decided to try different monitor sends [2] which brought me to realize there is a bug in monitor 2 recall from the APP Snapshot library! Not the mixer snapshot library.
I have confirmed with Behringer and they are going to get their software team to sort it.
Thank you for listening to me.
Regards
NZdave
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