Firmware 2 Show Control Explained

[pvannatto]

Hi everyone, I just came across an excellent explanation of the new show control (introduced in firmware 2). Evidently Drew Brashler made this video for Behringer. I even learned some things.


Oct 30 - Drew just posted a library overview video tutorial. He also promises to post more detail tutorials of each library section.


Nov 2 - Drew just posted a library channel preset tutorial.


Nov 6 - Drew just posted a snapshot tutorial (for FW 2.0)


Nov 10 - Drew just posted a library FX preset tutorial


Nov 16 - Drew just posted a snippet creation tutorial


Nov 20 - Drew just posted a Build a Show tutorial.


Nov 27 - Drew just posted a tutorial on adding sound clips to a Show.
Notice at the end of the tutorial he explains how to link a snippet to a user button. This is a really cool feature that I use.

[pmaillot]

Yes, a pretty good video.Even if Drew doesn't dive in specifics or advanced show control functions.

[kruntz]

Even if Drew doesn't dive in specifics or advanced show control functions.

...nor in Snippets editing, FWIW...

[pvannatto]

Drew doesn't dive in specifics or advanced show control functions.

If anyone can provide that, you can (hint, hint).

nor in Snippets editing,

Actually snippets can't be edited in the console. It has to be done externally. The only app that I know of for this is my Wing Snipshot Toolbox. An update is forthcoming soon (renamed Wing Snippet Toolbox) - just have to update the documentation.

[kruntz]

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nor in Snippets editing,

Actually snippets can't be edited in the console. It has to be done externally. The only app that I know of for this is my Wing Snipshot Toolbox. An update is forthcoming soon (renamed Wing Snippet Toolbox) - just have to update the documentation.

I actually edited a lot of snippets using IntelliJ Idea as a json syntax editor/checker.
(Your Wing Snipshot Toolbox is very nice and useful, though.)
BTW, snippets *can* be edited in the console. What I'm talking about is "ADD ITEMS", "REMOVE ITEMS" and the other buttons in the "SNIP" tab.

Cheers.

[pvannatto]

snippets *can* be edited in the console. What I'm talking about is "ADD ITEMS", "REMOVE ITEMS"

The Add Items doesn't work correctly. For example, if you create a snippet with REC and mute ch 1 and 2 (for example), STOP, then Save. Then select that snippet and Add Items (select ch 3 and 4), REC, mute ch 3 and 4, STOP, then either Save or Update, then Load the snippet - you will only get ch 3 and 4 muted. This bug has been mentioned to the developers. Hopefully it will get fix in the future. To me the current state is unreliable and shouldn't be used.

The Remove Items does work - if you can remember what was included in the snippet when it was first created (months ago).

The Clear All does work. But it is destructive - ie there is no undo.

I downloaded the community version of IntelliJ Idea and tried it. Unfortunately if you are wanting to make a snippet from a good snapshot, it is difficult because the Wing snapshot format is one long json string (no line breaks or indents). But it does look great as a snippet editor.

[kruntz]

The Add Items doesn't work correctly. For example, if you create a snippet with REC and mute ch 1 and 2 (for example), STOP, then Save. Then select that snippet and Add Items (select ch 3 and 4), REC, mute ch 3 and 4, STOP, then either Save or Update, then Load the snippet - you will only get ch 3 and 4 muted. This bug has been mentioned to the developers. Hopefully it will get fix in the future. To me the current state is unreliable and shouldn't be used.

Yep! You are right. I was just hoping that I was doing something wrong and Drew would know the "correct" way...

I downloaded the community version of IntelliJ Idea and tried it. Unfortunately if you are wanting to make a snippet from a good snapshot, it is difficult because the Wing snapshot format is one long json string (no line breaks or indents). But it does look great as a snippet editor.

If you press CTRL+ALT+L (reformat), you get something like this:

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{
  "type": "snippet.8",
  "creator_fw": "2.0-0-g6617206f:release",
  "creator_sn": "WING-PP-1101070210",
  "creator_model": "ngc-full",
  "creator_version": "SX45-XU2",
  "creator_name": "WING-ON-FOH",
  "created": "2023-09-14 22:36:47",
  "active_show": "I:/library/shows/JCS/JCS FOH.show",
  "active_scene": "I:/library/shows/JCS/JCS Setup.snap",
  "num_pars": 50,
  "ae_data": {
    "mgrp": {
      "1": {
        "mute": true
      },
      "2": {
        "mute": false
      },
      "3": {
        "mute": false
      },
      "4": {
        "mute": false
      }
    }
  },
  "ce_data": {},
  "ae_globals": {},
  "ce_globals": {}
}

And yes, the Wing load "pretty printed" snippets just fine.

[pvannatto]

If you press CTRL+ALT+L (reformat), you get something like this:

Cool! Thanks

[pvannatto]

I was just hoping that I was doing something wrong and Drew would know the "correct" way...

He just posted a snippet creation tutorial (see my original post above) and made no mention about editing existing snippets.

[kruntz]

He just posted a snippet creation tutorial (see my original post above) and made no mention about editing existing snippets.

Ok.
So text editing will be the way 'till the bug fix, I suppose...

Cheers.